9 month old Kingroon printer may be inexpensive but has made beautiful PLA objects. Today the Z axis stopped moving during a print. Now Z axis won’t move using Z move up/down buttons. Z axis also doesn’t move (home) when using assisted bed leveling. Power is reaching the Z axis stepper motor because it resists manual movement when the printer is turned on (very little resistance when turned off like normally). Move screen reports Z= -180 after trying to use assisted leveling (X and Y home but Z doesn’t move). Clicking the Z axis end stop switch results in Z = 0 display but doesn’t fix Z movement issue. Ideas?
OK, one crazy idea. How 'bout swapping data cables: say, swap the X and Z axis. Then, use Pronterface (or similar) to send something like G1 X50; see if the Z axis moves.
Swapping Z and Y cables moves the Z axis but not the Y so it’s not the Z axis stepper motor or mechanicals.Can the driver fail so stepper gets power on but doesn’t move?
The begins to narrow down the choices I think: [LIST=1]
MKS Robin MINI STM32 A4988 RAM 32bit Robin Controller Motherboard is used in the KP3. It has socketed drivers according to aliexpress. I haven’t looked at board yet so we’ll see what is actually in there tomorrow. I’ll ensure the fan is running to cool the drivers. Never had a driver fail before. I guess the trim pot will need to be adjusted too. Sigh…
It’s certainly not a guarantee that the stepper driver is dead; just a more likely option that it was before, since you’ve eliminated the stepper motor. The Y axis on my brand new Ender 5 would stop working randomly in the middle of a print. In my case it turned out to be the firmware, if you can believe it. Since your printer has been working well for quite a while, I think firmware is an unlikely culprit. That said, it couldn’t hurt to reflash it, just in case.
It’s certainly a lucky break that the stepper drivers are socketed. However, over the decades, I have learned 3 rules of electronic troubleshooting: connections, connections, connections. I say that because it’s possible, just possible, that pulling the stepper driver chip, and re-seating it, preferably several times, will restore the connectivity to its original state. While you’re in there, you might as well re-seat all of the socketed chips.
Whether or not the original fan is dead, it would be an idea to replace it with a newer, more powerful, quieter one. Fans are cheap by comparison to most other components, so it makes sense to use good ones.
I’m surprised to hear that there’s a trim pot. Are you referring to one on the mobo?
Disassembly this afternoon. Checked and fan is working - actually very quiet. Good suggestion on re-socketing I’ll definitely do that.Way quicker than ordering new drivers. I’ll use contact cleaner if they look suspicious.
I generally find that unsocketing, then re-socketing, doing that 3 to 4 times is the best technique. It scraps any oxidation off the pins and sockets. A white plastic eraser (NOT the pink ones on the end of pencils) also can help, but the physical resocketing virtually always works for me.
Took the cover off. The drivers are down on the board and share a heat sink. Swapped Z and Y wiring at the board (this tests the cabling) Y stopped working X started working.
So, the failure must be the driver.
The mother board is toast. Did find it’s possible to wire in an “external” driver (How to fix any stepper driver [3D printer mainboard repair] - YouTube) but what a kludge. The MKS Robin Mini v2 board is no longer manufactured so a direct swap isn’t available. No interest in buying a board without replaceable drivers anyway.
Loved this machine and the touchscreen UI but can no longer recommend the Kingroon.
Wondering if I should just buy a new 3D printer and toss this one on the broken dreams pile in the basement or try to kludge it.
Think I’ll have a beer.
I was afraid of that. Re: a new printer: you might want to look at the ADIMLab Gantry Pro (https://www.amazon.com/ADIMLab-Assem…s%2C158&sr=8-1. From what I’ve seen & read, it offers a lot for the money.
The one main complaint I’ve heard is the gantry could be a little unstable with huge prints, but users have pretty easily fixed that with some bracing.
Maybe you can find a used board on e-bay!?
Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000926079669.html replacement mobo
Now just wait until mod August…
That is a really good price for a 32-bit board. Not sure which stepper drivers it has, but they do have heat sinks, which is not great, but it is common. It seems to have all the sensor inputs & pwr outputs you could want. I hope you ordered 2.
Good luck! I ordered some printer parts from AliExpress on 6/25. As of 7/1 the order “departed country or origin.” Fingers crossed.
Yeah. North American vendors are having a tough time getting goods from China these days.
So, I got my “motherboard”. Thought it was packed funny. Opened it. It was a Kingroon heated bed! Filed complaint. After a brief back and forth they refunded my money. Sigh. Guess the new Covid fill-ins in China are making life difficult for the companies there. Sad! that shipping it back is so spendy they didn’t even ask for it back. A mistake was made but I hate that the vendor had to eat it. Sad too that I don’t have a motherboard. Guess I’ll get out my solder station and see if I can remove the driver chip and haywire an external daughter driver board. Sounds like a nice winter project for when we’re snowed in. Any suggestions for the wire gauge to the chip pins? Power, ground, and driver output wiring will be run separately to motor and power supply connections from the driver daughter board. Only the driver control wires need to be soldered to the chip pads. Small and flexible wiring I can glue to the board I’m thinking.
I hear you about the vendors having to eat the cost. They did make the mistake, but still…
I’m sorta wondering why you don’t just order a control board, like an SKR, from Amazon?
Well, I may have to.
But, I really liked the way the little Kingroon printed. Plus I have several items I will print over and over and wanted to avoid having to re-slice and tune for a different printer. I’m also busy and wanted to just plug in a replacement MoBo rather than refit a new different shaped board in the existing box, learn Marlin and install it, redo (learn) the software (I hate the Marlin UI on the Ender5 after the slick UI on the Kingroon), futz with the display, yada yada. 3D printing is a hobby when I have spare time but right now I just need it to work. I’m getting the Ender5 dialed in and finally have shimmed the build plate so it’s flat enough to get stuff to stick (that and finding out that Iso doesn’t clean the build sheet but soap and water do). I just want my Kingroon back! I may just buy another one…
This sounds like a broken wire or a loose connection that gets triggered at some point. The result that it now does not work anymore at all is kind of an sign for this.
This could be a wire or a broken driver or a driver causing the issue when getting hot due to insufficient cooling. It is hard to say.
I would try homing and then use the LCD menu to drive the Z axis up and down.Watching the cables and when it stops to get an indication where the problem is.
Another way would be adding an external cooling fan (simplest could be a hair dryer set to cool) pointing to the driver chips and see if that changes anything. If it does, check the heat sinks mounted to the chips. Especially of course the one responsible for the Z axis.
Naw. it’s a dead driver. Z just stopped. Completely. Never worked again. Swapped the Z & Y wires at the motors. Problem moved to Y. Put wires back in place. Opened case swapped wires at the MoBo. Problem moved. So, not the motor, not the wires. only common item is the driver chip and the MoBo wiring to the cable connector. MoBo wiring failure unlikely. Checked - looked OK - (I once was a Mil-Spec solder instructor at a DOD contractor) and reheated solder connection to connector. Unlikely the socket is bad. Driver chip down on the board. Board not normally end-user repairable. Shared heat sink. I’ll pull the MoBo, get out the solder station and remove the bad driver chip. Then see if I can solder leads to the board. Build driver circuit on a daughter board. Should be interesting project for this winter when the snow gets deep. For now I ordered a BIGTREETECH SKR V1.3 32bit board & quiet drivers. Keep y’all posted.