I have to do something now that I wish I didn’t have to, but I feel it’s necessary. Recently, I bought 4 rolls of Sunlu brand filament from Amazon: 3 rolls of regular PLA and 1 roll of wood PLA. I bought red to do the 2 Nintendo Switch game pack holders I posted about on Saturday. I also wanted to print a new photo infinity backdrop holder and decided to use the silver filament I ordered.
Things did not go well.
First, I found I had to use much higher nozzle temperature compared to the other PLA filaments I’ve used. This in itself is not a terrible thing, but it is something I noted. In fairness, the package does say to use temps between 200C and 230C. I found 218C worked relatively well for laying down filament.
Second, I had real problems with shrinkage, leading deformation of the models and causing them lift from the print bed. I have used 4 or 5 brands of PLA to date and have not experienced this issue with any of them. I took photos to illustrate this issue:
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I fixed the layer adhesion issue by slowing the print speed down to 40mm/sec overall, with a first layer speed of 15mm/sec and inner/outer wall speed of 25mm/sec. However, even this didn’t fix all the layer adhesion issues:
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Slowing down did not help with the lack of bed adhesion and shrinkage, which is what I believe is causing the poor bed adhesion. The model without tweezers was printed after the one with tweezers. In Cura I simply multiplied the existing model, rotated it around to fit more tightly to the existing, then deleted the first model from the layout. The printing itself went not too badly overall, although the Sunlu prints seem to be more brittle than other PLAs I’ve used. The real issue is the shrinkage, as shown by the closest end of the left-hand model. See how it has lifted from the bed and drifted to the left.
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Looking at the model lifted from the bed got me thinking about something I’d noticed when printing the Nintendo Switch trays: that is, I had noticed that 1 corner of at least 1 of the trays had curled up a little bit from the bed. I didn’t really think much about it at the time, but the backdrop model made me wonder. I now suspect the trays didn’t lift up more only because they had such a huge percentage of their mass directly in contact with the print bed. IOW, the huge contact area overrode the effects of shrinkage.
I decided to test my hypotheses by printing some of the same backdrop parts, but using a filament I had used successfully in the past.
[ATTACH=JSON]{“data-align”:“none”,“data-size”:“medium”,“data-attachmentid”:3197}[/ATTACH] This was printed using some leftover Hello3D white PLA filament. It exhibited none of the issues I had with the Sunlu. Here’s a closeup of the base:
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Ignore the knocked off top corner. That was my fault. But do notice the nice layering, showing no sign of brittleness or lack of layer adhesion, also no distortion/shrinkage on the bottom. (continued in next post)
