# Layer separation

**URL:** <https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242>\
**Category:** 3d Printing / Slicers / Setup / Problems\
**Created:** [April 13, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242 "2023-04-13T23:40:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Locks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Locks](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Locks)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242/1 "2023-04-13T23:40:39Z")

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Hello,

I am very new to 3d printing and I just got my first printer an ender 3 s1 pro. I have leveled the bed the best that I could and ran some test prints that came with the printer. Everything came out great. I am now trying to print a part I have made and am having some issues. After the first few layers it seems like a few just will not stick to each other. I am using PLA. Currently trying inland pla filament. I have increased the bed temp and nozzle temp. Nozzle temp is 230c and bed temp is 70c and still seem to have this issue. Attached is a photo of what is happening. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (Also have lowered retraction as well as print speed)  
Thanks.

 ![PXL_20230413_203657008](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/makewithtech/original/2X/5/51f9e521a985b59a89772a5c000ad9934951c7d2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Pigjes](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/pigjes/32/199_2.png) [@Pigjes](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Pigjes)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242/2 "2023-04-14T03:28:20Z")

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It looks like the print is not printed enough close to the bed on this pic. I never had to print PLA at 230C and 70C bed, usually between 200-210C. and 60-65C. Could also be the speed of the first layer, maybe it’s too fast. Also, I have seen this in circular designs on my previous printer, which was an Ender 3 S1.

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**Author:** ![Locks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Locks](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Locks)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242/3 "2023-04-14T12:25:28Z")

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Yeah I thought 230 was hot but the pla I was using recommend 215-230. I did notice that my cr touch was actually hitting the print. I have re adjusted the level and the hot end itself I think it may have been slightly tilted. So far seems to be working.

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**Author:** ![Pigjes](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/pigjes/32/199_2.png) [@Pigjes](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Pigjes)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242/4 "2023-04-14T13:04:10Z")

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Awesome! Glad it works!

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**Author:** ![Geit](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/geit/32/44_2.png) [@Geit](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Geit)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/layer-separation/7242/5 "2023-04-15T10:56:40Z")

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The temperature range is there to be able to change the temperature depending on speed.

If you print slow (60mm/s) you can use 215°C. This is improving the print, because the plastic is longer in the nozzle and does not get cooked.

When printing faster, the plastic is inside the heater for a short time and needs to be heater quicker. Then you use a higher print temperature to compensate the short heating window.

So you should set the temperature depending on the actual print speed.
