# I can't be the st, but I need help **URL:** \ **Category:** 3d Printing / Slicers / Setup / Problems\ **Created:** [February 20, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015 "2021-02-20T03:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/1 "2021-02-20T03:04:12Z")
Today, I had an idea. Amazingly, the world didn’t come to an end 😃 The idea is that binder & other clips could be eliminated on many printers that have glass print beds by gluing a piece of sheet metal to the underside of the glass plate & then letting the glass plate/sheet metal combo stick to the rubberized magnetic base that comes with many printers. Unfortunately, I have neen unable to find where I can buy an adhesive sheet that could stick a piece of sheet metal to the glass plate & also withstand the high temperatures… I have a spare rubberized magnetic mat that could be used but, when I tried to see how well the spare mat would stick to the 1 on the printer, I was not impressed. Anyone have any ideas. It would really be nice to get rid of the clips to hold down the glass print beds. ---
**Author:** ![MambaRoja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MambaRoja](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/MambaRoja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/2 "2021-02-20T03:09:09Z")
you could try a thermal pad: uxcell 400mm x 205mm x 0.5mm Silicone Thermal Pad for CPU GPU Heatsink ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/3 "2021-02-20T03:12:05Z")
Apparently, it is not adhesive. That’s a problem. ---
**Author:** ![MambaRoja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MambaRoja](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/MambaRoja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/4 "2021-02-20T03:38:54Z")
Just try it, if you cover the whole bed it will very hard to remove, strips are advised… I used it for an i3 plus, no clips! ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/5 "2021-02-20T03:43:44Z")
Even if it sticks well enough to not slip, there is still the issue of adhesive force. One of the main reasons for using clips to hold down the glass is to apply even pressure, so that the bed levelling can work. The magnetic sheet performs the same function. I’m not sure a silicon sheet would do the same job (although it very well work to hold my mugs, bowls, etc. on my lap board when I eat in the living room. ---
**Author:** ![MambaRoja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MambaRoja](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/MambaRoja)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/6 "2021-02-20T03:55:38Z")
Let me know if you try it. ---
**Author:** ![Stuart](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/stuart/32/17_2.png) [@Stuart](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Stuart)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/7 "2021-02-21T08:46:58Z")
If you search for VHB sheets or tape. VHB stands for ‘very high bond’ 3M make it. You can buy it on Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![MambaRoja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@MambaRoja](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/MambaRoja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/8 "2021-02-21T10:28:11Z")
VHB adhesive is meant to be permanent, you should be able to remove the bed for thorough cleaning once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/9 "2021-02-21T16:36:41Z")
> [@Stuart](#): > > If you search for VHB sheets or tape. VHB stands for ‘very high bond’ 3M make it. You can buy it on Amazon. I’m quite familiar with 3M VHB. I’ve using the tapes for years. I did just find a version, GPH, of VHB that has high heat resistance. No idea of the cost, and the packaging I found contains WAAAAAY more than I need (42.5 in x 36.1 yd x 43.3 mil). Knowing the cost of regular VHB, I can only imagine how crazy expensive an amount like that would be. ---
**Author:** ![Stuart](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/stuart/32/17_2.png) [@Stuart](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Stuart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/10 "2021-02-22T08:44:28Z")
Yes, anything with the 3M logo, you can bet it’s going to be expensive ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@Larry](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/11 "2021-02-22T20:48:12Z")
@Ender5r Why not just use a PEI coated spring steel sheet with magnetic sticker? Been using one for a long time now and works great. Plus very easy to get prints off of the sheet. Just a slight bend of the sheet and prints pop right off. No bed clips no glass to worry about and sticks great with no glues needed on the bed to clean up. Unless your printing petg or abs. But even then magigoo clens off of it very easy with IPA ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/12 "2021-02-22T20:59:39Z")
I print almost exclusively PETG. ---
**Author:** ![Stuart](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/stuart/32/17_2.png) [@Stuart](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Stuart)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/13 "2021-02-22T21:09:34Z")
Doesn’t PETG work well with spring steel? ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/14 "2021-02-22T21:36:00Z")
I do have 1 of these: [U][https://www.amazon.ca/Magnetic-Flexible-Heated-235x235mm-Ender/dp/B07XBM24HN/ref=sr\_1\_7?crid=1VYYJSML0VY2L&dchild=1&keywords=creality+pei+sheet&qid=1614029659&sprefix=creality+sheet%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-7[/U]](https://www.amazon.ca/Magnetic-Flexible-Heated-235x235mm-Ender/dp/B07XBM24HN/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1VYYJSML0VY2L&dchild=1&keywords=creality+pei+sheet&qid=1614029659&sprefix=creality+sheet%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-7%5B/U%5D). I used it for a bit but it started not adhering the prints very well after a short time. ---
**Author:** ![Alan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/alan/32/26_2.png) [@Alan](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Alan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/15 "2021-02-22T21:44:38Z")
Has anyone tried BuildTak? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/16 "2021-02-22T21:49:27Z")
From what I just read, Buildtak seems like the ‘normal’ build surface that comes with, for example, Creality printers. I wonder if there really is a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@Larry](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/i-cant-be-the-st-but-i-need-help/3015/17 "2021-02-22T21:59:20Z")
DrVax has [//youtu.be/3TMLiI61Pp0](https://youtu.be/3TMLiI61Pp0)