# Clogging problems.... **URL:** \ **Category:** 3d Printing / Slicers / Setup / Problems\ **Created:** [June 24, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489 "2020-06-24T17:20:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/21 "2020-10-31T22:20:04Z")
> [@Ender5r](#): > > Actually, as someone who has done gold plating commercially, I can tell you that gold plating is not really expensive. That’s because the plating is extremely thin, usually measured in microns. That’s enough to give the item the properties of gold. > > Just as an FYI, I was manager of a plant in the middle to late 70s that produced blank custom electronic circuit boards; specifically, the gold ‘fingers’ you’ve almost certainly seen on the edge of circuit boards that allow the boards to be plugged into other boards, I was Jewellery designer and jeweller for over 25 years and i agree with you that is not expensive. THEY WOULD SELL IT EXPENSIVE. that was my point. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/22 "2020-10-31T22:24:37Z")
Ah. I wonder, would it be possible to disassemble an all metal hotend and get the inner tubing gold plated? Also, I think it behoove some of the makers of all metal hotends to start getting them gold plated. I say that because you say it would be a big help. I’ve never personally tested how well filament plastic sticks to gold. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/23 "2020-10-31T22:53:16Z")
> [@Ender5r](#): > > Ah. I wonder, would it be possible to disassemble an all metal hotend and get the inner tubing gold plated? Also, I think it behoove some of the makers of all metal hotends to start getting them gold plated. I say that because you say it would be a big help. I’ve never personally tested how well filament plastic sticks to gold. It doesn’t stick as much as in other metals. You don’t have to Gold plate the inner side of the tube, but the hole tube. When Gold plate a piece of metal and especially a tube, you must know that the inner surface fail of plating. ---
**Author:** ![roon4660](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/roon4660/32/35_2.png) [@roon4660](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/roon4660)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/24 "2020-10-31T23:03:04Z")
I am beginning to see why I was having so much trouble wirh my Creality all metal hotend trying to make it extrude properly. ---
**Author:** ![roon4660](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/roon4660/32/35_2.png) [@roon4660](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/roon4660)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/25 "2020-10-31T23:06:09Z")
I used to dabble with electroplating because I made costume jewelry. When I was doing it in spai I used to get bracelets and things electo-plated for me. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/26 "2020-10-31T23:08:02Z")
Have you tried to electroplate a tube to what will happen inside it? ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/27 "2020-10-31T23:08:48Z")
I’m aware some people install a capsule on their filment train that wipes a tiny bit of oil onto the filament. I’ve always wondered if that affects the laying down of filement, or layer adhesion. But I now also wonder if it would help with feeding filament through an all metal hotend. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/28 "2020-10-31T23:10:16Z")
> [@Vassili\_Finellis](#): > > Have you tried to electroplate a tube to what will happen inside it? The trick is to use barrel plating. ---
**Author:** ![roon4660](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/roon4660/32/35_2.png) [@roon4660](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/roon4660)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/29 "2020-10-31T23:11:36Z")
I have no idea what you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/30 "2020-10-31T23:12:23Z")
In short lengths will work, but in long lengths not so much… ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/31 "2020-10-31T23:13:24Z")
And i mean in custom plating only! If a manufacturer decides to produce it, then will be easy for him as well as profitable. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/32 "2020-10-31T23:14:26Z")
Barrel plating is a technique wherein a water tight barrel is lined with conductive meta hobnails around it inner side, made of the metal you want to plate. The parts to be plated are put inside the barrel, it’s sealed, and the the barrel is rotated while current is fed through the hobnails. The parts contact the hobnails, and each other, thereby get plated. ---
**Author:** ![roon4660](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/roon4660/32/35_2.png) [@roon4660](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/roon4660)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/33 "2020-10-31T23:16:58Z")
Would that properly plate the interior of the tubes? ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/34 "2020-10-31T23:20:34Z")
That’s partly why it’s used. Nowadays, it may be possible to get good results by using electroless plating. That, for sure, would fully plate the inside. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/35 "2020-10-31T23:24:38Z")
> [@Ender5r](#): > > That’s partly why it’s used. Nowadays, it may be possible to get good results by using electroless plating. That, for sure, would fully play the inside. …and will cost to the end user as well! ---
**Author:** ![roon4660](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/roon4660/32/35_2.png) [@roon4660](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/roon4660)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/36 "2020-10-31T23:24:53Z")
When I was learning what little I know about electro-plating they said you could gold plate one of those big old Cadillacs with an ounce of gold. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/37 "2020-10-31T23:29:12Z")
I believe it. Gold is usually plater very, very thin. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/38 "2020-10-31T23:33:41Z")
It’s like plated hotends, production is cheap but selling is expensive. Take a look at E3D’s coated hotends. It’s the same logic. ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/39 "2020-10-31T23:38:05Z")
Sounds more like a cash grab, or profit maximizer, to me. IOW, if the coated hotend lasts twice as long, the manufacturer sees having to wait longer to sell the customer another hotend as a loss that they need to make up. I hate that kind of marketing BS. Much better to have loyal customers over the long term than to lose them to dissatisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![Vassili\_Finellis](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/vassili_finellis/32/12_2.png) [@Vassili\_Finellis](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Vassili_Finellis)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489/40 "2020-11-01T00:36:04Z")
Depends on what the manufacturer wants… Everything is marketing! [Previous page](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/clogging-problems/2489.md?page=3)