# 3D printer Upgrades **URL:** \ **Category:** 3d Printing / Slicers / Setup / Problems\ **Created:** [November 21, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792 "2020-11-21T19:23:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Geit](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/geit/32/44_2.png) [@Geit](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Geit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/21 "2020-11-24T09:48:16Z")
> [@Ender5r](#): > > Could account for why you’re bed takes 20 min. to heat up? Because the bed is heated from the bottom, heats the air, which then floats to the sides off, so the bed can reheat the cold air again. As I said: For me adding the bed halved the heating time. > [@mochalatte](#): > > Where would the insulation go? On the underside? Yeah, it is a foam board, with adhesive on one side and aluminum foil on the other. You use scissors cut out, where e.g. the LEDs or the bed clamps take space underneath, remove the protective film and press it on. [https://www.amazon.de/s?k=3D+Drucker+plattform+Heißbett+Isolierung&i=industrial&\_\_mk\_de\_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&ref=nb\_sb\_noss](https://www.amazon.de/s?k=3D+Drucker+plattform+Hei%C3%9Fbett+Isolierung&i=industrial&__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss) ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@Larry](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/22 "2020-11-24T14:22:17Z")
> [@Geit](#): > > Because the bed is heated from the bottom, heats the air, which then floats to the sides off, so the bed can reheat the cold air again. As I said: For me adding the bed halved the heating time. > > Yeah, it is a foam board, with adhesive on one side and aluminum foil on the other. > > You use scissors cut out, where e.g. the LEDs or the bed clamps take space underneath, remove the protective film and press it on. > > [Amazon.de : 3D Drucker plattform Heißbett Isolierung](https://www.amazon.de/s?k=3D+Drucker+plattform+Hei%C3%9Fbett+Isolierung&i=industrial&__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&ref=nb_sb_noss) Here is the one i have on order. [https://www.amazon.com/FYSETC-235x235mm-Insulation-Lightweight-Self-Adhesive/dp/B089STL5WD/ref=sr\_1\_3?dchild=1&keywords=235+x+235+mm+foam+board+insulation&qid=1606227652&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/FYSETC-235x235mm-Insulation-Lightweight-Self-Adhesive/dp/B089STL5WD/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=235+x+235+mm+foam+board+insulation&qid=1606227652&sr=8-3) ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/23 "2020-11-24T14:47:59Z")
> [@Larry](#): > > Here is the one i have on order. > > [https://www.amazon.com/FYSETC-235x235mm-Insulation-Lightweight-Self-Adhesive/dp/B089STL5WD/ref=sr\_1\_3?dchild=1&keywords=235+x+235+mm+foam+board+insulation&qid=1606227652&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/FYSETC-235x235mm-Insulation-Lightweight-Self-Adhesive/dp/B089STL5WD/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=235+x+235+mm+foam+board+insulation&qid=1606227652&sr=8-3) I guess you got the last 1. Apparently, it’s now unavailable. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@Larry](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/24 "2020-11-24T14:50:37Z")
[ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: insliatio.PNG Views: 1 Size: 340.4 KB ID: 6575”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“6575”,“data-size”:“full”}[/ATTACH] > [@Ender5r](#): > > I guess you got the last 1. Apparently, it’s now unavailable. 🙂 Weird i just clicked on the item again and it shows in stock. Maybe they just don’t like you ? ![insliatio.PNG](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/makewithtech/original/1X/033f246517b7e2286382ad5927c154b8d10928d3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/25 "2020-11-24T15:15:14Z")
> [@Larry](#): > > [ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: insliatio.PNG Views: 1 Size: 340.4 KB ID: 6575”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“6575”,“data-size”:“full”}[/ATTACH] > > Weird i just clicked on the item again and it shows in stock. Maybe they just don’t like you ? Story of my life… ? ---
**Author:** ![Geit](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/geit/32/44_2.png) [@Geit](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Geit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/26 "2020-11-24T16:12:41Z")
From what I heard the same stuff is used to insulate exhausts of motor cycles, so you may get them in bike/car stores locally. I guess this is just an overpriced cutout from the original. Or you only get 3x0.50m rolls for 40 Euro, which is cheap, but also way to much. 😃 Like the belt printer belt is just a luggage conveyor belt. Found it: > **[Amazon.com: uxcell Heat Sound Deadening Insulation Mat Deadener Pad Car Auto...](https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Deadening-Insulation-Deadener-Waterproof/dp/B01I3C64ZQ)** > > Buy uxcell Heat Sound Deadening Insulation Mat Deadener Pad Car Auto Exhaust Muffler Hood Door Waterproof 394mil 6.4sqft 40x24inch: Insulation - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases ---
**Author:** ![Ender5r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ender5r](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Ender5r)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/27 "2020-11-24T16:22:52Z")
> [@Geit](#): > > Like the belt printer belt is just a luggage conveyor belt. Some of them for sure, although I have seen PEI coated belts… an interesting option. ---
**Author:** ![Larry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@Larry](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Larry)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/28 "2020-11-24T16:29:55Z")
> [@Geit](#): > > From what I heard the same stuff is used to insulate exhausts of motor cycles, so you may get them in bike/car stores locally. > > I guess this is just an overpriced cutout from the original. Or you only get 3x0.50m rolls for 40 Euro, which is cheap, but also way to much. 😃 > Like the belt printer belt is just a luggage conveyor belt. > > Found it: > [https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B01I3C64ZQ/ref=sr\_1\_3?\_\_mk\_de\_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&dchild=1&keywords=thermal+pad+motorcycle&qid=1606234483&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B01I3C64ZQ/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=thermal+pad+motorcycle&qid=1606234483&sr=8-3) Yea i could have paid 8 dollars more for a lot more, but i would never use it. So paying 8 dollars more for something i would never use to me is just a waste of money. Of course i could not get it at all and save 10.99 but where is the fun in that ? ---
**Author:** ![Geit](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.makewithtech.com/geit/32/44_2.png) [@Geit](https://forum.makewithtech.com/u/Geit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792/29 "2020-11-24T16:42:34Z")
Well, I´ll need a 400x400 sheet to get most off my 750W heat bed, once the GeitPrinter is up and running. [Previous page](https://forum.makewithtech.com/t/3d-printer-upgrades/2792.md?page=1)